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Don't Go Diotrephes


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #10: Don't go Diotrephes

Diotrephes is a guy who's only mentioned once in the Bible in one of the epistles written by John, and it says this: "Diotrephes always wanted to be first." If they're going to put your name in the Bible for one thing, that's pretty sad. He was really proud, and he always wanted to have all the attention.

Now, the truth is some leaders will get attention. Some of us, more than we like, at least certain kinds of attention. But the sin of Diotrephes is, "I don't want to be on the team, I've got to be the face of the team. I don't want to just humbly serve, I want my name to be famous." And we live in that sort of celebrity-addicted culture where people get famous who don't even do anything. Isn't that weird? You ever watch TMZ or pick up a People magazine? You're like, "All these people are famous and they didn't do anything." Some people are just famous—there's their dog in their handbag, and what did they do? Nothing. Why are they famous? Because we're desperate to talk about somebody. And the sin of Diotrephes is, "I want them to talk about me, not Jesus."

Jesus chooses twelve apostles, but they all don't get the same press. If you read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and if you read Acts together, Peter is mentioned 189 times. John, 50. Philip, 17. Andrew, 13. Thomas, 11. Matthew, also called Levi (some of these guys have two names) 9. James the son of Alphaeus, 7. Thaddeus or Judas, he had two names and you know why. There were two disciples with the name Judas; the other guy was really bummed, right? "So what do you do?" "I'm an apostle." "What's your name?" "Judas." "Oh, I heard about you." "No, I'm the other Judas, call me Thaddeus. I'm not rolling with Judas anymore." Simon the Zealot, four times. Bartholomew, also called Nathaniel, same man, is mentioned once. Judas Iscariot, 22.

Some of these people, like Peter, get mentioned a lot; others, hardly at all. If you want do a really simple Bible study, do one on Bartholomew. You could tweet his whole life story because that's all we know. His name is Bartholomew, he was an apostle. I don't even need all the characters. That's all I got. We don't know much. Peter we know: he's impetuous. Cut a guy's ear. We know lots about Peter. Thomas, he's the doubter. Thomas has one bad day. That's the one day he made the press. It's like "Come on, man, I finished well." He had a bad day, so we're just going to keep talking about that one. And other people, we don't know anything about.

Accept being behind the scenes

On a team, especially a good diverse weird team, some people are going to be real prominent, others less prominent. Some are going to get a lot of press time, others not so much. Be okay with that. Some of you, God's called you to be up front. Don't be cowards. Some of you, God's called to lead, visibly, publicly. Don't be cowards. Others of you, that's not you. Be number two, be behind the scenes. Be number three, help it happen, get it done. The truth is these guys were all doing important stuff, some of them we just don't know what it was because they weren't up front, they were behind the scenes. That's important too. I say that with all sincerity.

To be continued.

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Big Teams Need a Smaller Team Within the Team


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #8: Big teams need a smaller team within the team

Mars Hill Church is a big team. Ten campuses, a couple dozen services, forty-something elders and growing. I don't know how many hundreds of deacons, hundreds of community group leaders. There are a lot of big teams that need smaller teams within the teams.

Jesus has the seventy. They're mentioned as a number in the Bible. There are twelve that he's appointing as apostles, and within that team he's got Peter, Andrew, James, and John. Peter's the senior leader, but the inner team of leaders is Peter, Andrew, James, and John. They're listed together. They get special access to Jesus. They get special training from Jesus, and they make certain decisions that others don't get to make. So big teams need teams within the teams.

To be continued.

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Every Team Needs a Leader


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #7: Every team needs a leader

The disciples, the apostles, they're a team. Obviously, their leader is Jesus. Ultimately, he's the leader of every team, in any ministry or any Christian group, but the human leader is Peter. How do we know? Every time that the apostles are listed in Acts and the Gospels, and they appear many times, here's what happens: Judas is always listed last—not a lot of enthusiasm for Judas. Peter's always listed first. You know why? He's the leader. He's the first among equals. Every team needs a leader.

This is a sick world that hates leadership. Everybody thinks they should be able to text message the president and boss him around. It's a weird day, from social networking to continual comments to consumerism. People don't want to follow a leader, all they want to do is criticize a leader. They don't want to even recognize leadership. And some Christians will even say, "I don't believe in leadership." Really? Do you believe in God? Because God's in charge. So you've got to recognize at least one leader.

Leadership within the Trinity

And even the way God has organized himself in the Trinity: one God, three persons, all equal but submissive, is that there's God the Father, God the Son, God the Spirit. God the Son submits to God the Father and recognizes him as the leader. Though they're equal, there's what is called relational subordination. Jesus submits himself. He says, "The Father sent me. I speak what the Father tells me to say. I do what the Father tells me to do." And even when Jesus prays, he says, "Father, not my will," but what? What's the line? "Your will be done." That's submitting to the leader. That's what it is. And then the Bible says in John that God the Father and God the Son sent God the Holy Spirit. So, in the character of God, there's leadership within the Trinity.

So this plays itself out in the government of a home. Mom, dad, the kids are equal, but dad's supposed to lovingly, humbly, sacrificially lead. In the church, elders, members, deacons are equal but the elders are supposed to lead. In a community group, everybody's equal, but the community group leader is supposed to lead. In a redemption group, everybody's equal, but the redemption group leader is supposed to lead. On a worship team, everybody's equal, but the team leader is to lead. In a serving team, everybody's equal, but the team leader leads. So there are teams that have leaders, and leaders, according to ministry, they do doctrine: what do we believe and not believe? Direction: where are we going and not going? And discipline: what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior? That's what a lot of leadership is: doctrine, direction, discipline.

Peter's always listed first. He's the leader. Jesus appoints him as the leader. And when the day of Pentecost comes after Jesus dies on the cross and rises from the grave, it says that all the apostles are together. Jesus ascended into heaven. And the Bible says it this way in the opening chapters of Acts, "Peter stepped forward to preach." You know why? He's the leader. We don't make leaders, we recognize the leaders that the Holy Spirit has chosen. Some people, you're following them, you're listening to them, you're learning from them—they're the leader.

So every team needs a leader. In this day when authority is jettisoned and leadership is despised, and everybody thinks that they're smart, and everybody thinks that they should be obeyed. Everybody still believes in leadership, they just think that they should be the leader. So we have a day of complete anarchy. It's like the days of the judges, everybody did what was right in their own eyes.

Leadership at Mars Hill Church

And biblically, what we see with Jesus is that every team needs a leader. So every team at Mars Hill has a leader. At the campuses, the campus pastor is the leader. Within certain areas, community groups or kids or student ministry or redemption groups, there's a leader. There are leaders within all the teams and nobody leads all the teams at Mars Hill, particularly among the elders, and there is no one who's the leader of every team of leaders that they're on. So I'm on different teams, and I'm not the leader on every team. On some teams, I am down the chain of command and not the senior leader. On other teams, I am the senior leader. We intentionally have a structure whereby everyone in authority is also under authority, without exception, including myself. Every team needs a leader, and nobody's above the law, gets to do whatever they want. That's not the way Jesus set it up.

To be continued.

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Under Authority Before In Authority


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #6: Under authority before in authority

In Luke 6:12–16, it uses two words: disciple and apostle. It says, "He took those who were disciples, and he commissioned them as apostles." A disciple literally means a humble follower, a servant. Jesus is teaching, they're listening. Jesus is commanding, they're obeying. Jesus is leading, they're following. They're under authority. And Jesus had a lot of disciples, hundreds, thousands of people come out to hear him. They're all part of the come-and-see, and he picks those who are under authority, and he appoints a handful of them into authority.

And here's why this is so important: some people love to be in authority, but they don't like to be under authority. They want to boss other people around, but they don't take orders well. We've had this situation at various times at Mars Hill where somebody's like, "Okay, I'm a leader now. You can't tell me what to do." No, everybody's under authority—I'm under authority, everybody's under authority. We're all sinners, we all make mistakes. We all need to be under authority. God opposes the proud. He gives grace to the humble, so humble yourself.

So the Bible says, "Come under some authority." Those who are above the law, those who are the exception to the rule, those who get to do whatever they want, they're dangerous. They're very dangerous. They like sheep, but they bite shepherds. They like being in authority, they don't like being under authority, and you've got to be good at both to be a leader, because when you go into authority, you still need to be under authority. Being under authority is something for everybody, including the leaders. And if you're going to be in authority, you've got to be under authority.

So he takes those who are under authority, disciples, and he gives them a new title and job description and office. He calls them apostles—that means one who is sent. This is like an ambassador. The language here is like a king who rules a mighty kingdom, and he selects someone to be his emissary or his ambassador, and sends them on a mission into another nation, into another kingdom representing his authority and speaking on his behalf.

Apostle: office vs. gift

So let me explain "apostle." This is very important. First of all, Jesus is the apostle. Hebrews 3:1 says, "He's our apostle." So when God the Father wanted to send a representative, ambassador, emissary from heaven to earth to represent his kingdom, he sent God the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. He's our apostle. He's the sent one. That's why it says repeatedly, particularly in John's Gospel, "The Father has sent me." He's the apostle, the sent one.

And then there's the office of Apostle. We'll call this capital "A" Apostle, and those are the twelve hand-selected by Jesus. So their number's fixed. Ephesians 2:20 says, "They set the foundation of the church with the prophets and apostles," that's who's at the foundation of the church with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. The apostles included Judas. He's going to betray Jesus and hang himself. Another man will be selected early on in the book of Acts. One of the requirements is that he would need to be an eyewitness to the resurrection of Jesus. Paul is later added as an apostle, Jesus comes down and commissions him as an apostle as well.

We see that the apostles are a set number of people hand-selected by the Lord Jesus, eyewitnesses to his resurrection, given a very special authoritative designation, some of them actually writing books of the New Testament. That's the level of authority they enjoy. To that degree, there are not apostles today like that. No one has that kind of authority. No one could say, "Well, you know, Peter and I, we're at the same level. John and I, we're at the same level of spiritual authority." No, you're not.

But under the capital "A" Apostle, there's the lowercase "a" apostle and that's not the office, but the gift. And the gift of apostle is one that the Bible includes. You can read the gifts lists. It does list it, 1 Corinthians 12–14, Romans 12. It's listed in the various gift lists. It's a gift. It's a spiritual gift like serving or teaching or administration. It's a capacity. It's a capacity that God gives to men and women. God gives spiritual gifts to men and women, teaching, leadership, whatever it is. And there's a difference between the gift and the office. And so the gift of apostle includes a couple things, like the ability to do cross-cultural ministry, so he could go into another country and be a missionary, start a church plant, start a campus plant. Sometimes it's a movement leader who works across multiple churches, multiple pastors, writes, travels, preaches, speaks, teaches, sometimes internationally. This is one of my gifts.

Okay, but just because you have the gift of apostle doesn't mean anything unless you qualify to be an elder or a deacon, because you can have a gift and not have character. You can have a gift, and not be qualified. So we hold the offices are different than the gifts, but the gift of apostle does exist. We believe in that.

And then there are false apostles. The Bible talks about false apostles, people who are sent by Satan, not Jesus. They minister by the power of demons, not the Holy Spirit. They tell lies, not the truth. They lead people astray, not toward God.

So he takes these twelve who are under authority. He positions them into authority. "You are now Apostles, and you're going to lead," and then there are gifted people under them that have the gift of apostle, and part of our job is to keep people from false apostles, leading people astray.

Under authority before in authority

Here's the big idea. Some of you bounce from church to church, ministry to ministry, because you just don't want to be under authority. You don't want anybody to know you, or what you're doing. You don't want to become a member. You don't want to join anything. You don't want to be held accountable to anything. You just want to live in this come and see, come and see, come and see. But let me tell you, it's an immaturity. It's an immaturity, and today I invite you to go and die, to settle in somewhere, to commit to something, to make it ours and yours, and to come under authority, and then grow and be trained, and maybe one day God would have you to be in authority.

I mean, I can't tell you how many hundreds, there may be thousands of people at this point that I've met, they bounce from church to church to church, ministry to ministry to ministry, because they want to be in authority, and they don't want to qualify. They don't want to get trained. They don't want to prove themselves. They just want to walk up to the leader and say, "You need to do this. Obey me. I'm in charge." They don't say it, but they act like it.

Really, you walk in off the street and start bossing people around? It doesn't work like this anywhere else in the world. You can't do this in the Marines. You can't do this in a college. Can't just walk up to your professor, "I disagree with the degree. We need to do it this way, now." No. Sit down, learn. Be under authority, prove yourself. If you demonstrate faithfulness, someday you can be in authority, and when you get in authority, you can make some changes. Some of you love the idea of being in authority. You resist the thought of being under authority. Please don't pursue being in authority until you've had a season where you've proven yourself under authority.

To be continued.

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Weird Teams Are the Best Teams


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #5: Weird teams are the best teams

Weird teams are the best because number one, they're fun, and number two, they complement one another. One of the great weaknesses in leadership development theory, and here's the truth, we like to read business books and leadership books, and I subscribe to the Harvard Business Review and Wired and Fast Company. I mean, I like it all, but the Bible and Jesus, that's where we really go to learn, and other things can help us learn about what others are thinking in leadership.

Here's the big idea: if you have a weakness, should you work on it if you're a leader (this could be in ministry or business), or do you find people who are strong where you're weak? Conventional prevailing wisdom has been, you've got to work on your weaknesses. Maybe a little bit, but you know what? You need to find somebody who's better at things than you. Get a weird team of people who are really different. If everybody looks the same, watches the same TV shows, listens to the same bands, wears the same clothes, uses the same colloquialisms, has the same everything, you're probably in a cult. I just hate to tell you that, and the problem with the cult is you never know till the last day, and so it's kind of a disappointment.

A weird team's the best team, right? Jesus' team is kind of a weird team. John's young, Peter and the other guys are older. John's apparently single. Some other guys are married and have kids. It's kind of a weird team. Eleven of them are country boys. One's from the city, Judas, didn't represent us real well. It's a weird team. On this team is a guy named Simon the Zealot, we read in Luke 6. He hates the Roman government because it's ruling over God's people, and he's kind of a punk rock anarchist kind of guy. He's a Fugazi fan. He's that guy. And so he just wants to overthrow the Roman government. He says, "I hate the government. Down with the government." He's got the anarchist patch on his sleeve. He's that guy. And then on the team as well is Matthew the tax collector, who works for the Roman government, ripping off God's people, and these two guys are on the same team. It's the antigovernment anarchist activist and the IRS auditor. Seriously? The guy with the gun, and the guy who tucks his shirt in, they're on the same team? Yeah, that's a weird team. That's a very weird team.

Some of these guys are fisherman, one's a tax collector. At least four guys, we don't know what they did. Some are brothers, some aren't. It's a funky, little, weird team, but it works because they're different, and they compliment one another's strengths and weaknesses. Some of these guys had business experience, some had political experience. Some had leadership experience. Some of them already had pre-existing social networks and relationships. Just so you know this, the best teams are the weird teams.

It's like our eldership at Mars Hill Church. Every once in a while in an elder's meeting, Pastor Jamie, he's the legal president at Mars Hill, he'll just kind of chuckle. And I've asked him before, "Dude, what's so funny?" He's like, "Look at this team, what a weird team." True, I look around like, this is a weird team. Forty-some pastors, nineteen more in training. Maybe we'll be at sixty by the end of the year, and it's like, nothing but Jesus could bring this team together. Some are jocks, some of these guys have action figures. I mean, those are two totally different teams. We have guys who tuck their shirt in, guys who don't tuck their shirt in. And you're not supposed to tuck your shirt in, by the way. But we can't make it a rule because legalists are wrong, so you get to do whatever you want, tuck your shirt in, don't tuck your shirt in.

Some of the people on the team drink alcohol, some don't drink alcohol, some speak in tongues, some don't speak in tongues. Some are in their seventies, some are in their twenties, some are grandfathers, some are infertile. Some have a PhD, some have a GED—a "good enough diploma." It's a weird team, and if you walk in you're like, "What's up with this team? Ah, Jesus, brought this team together." It's a weird team. And people will ask, "How does this work?" Oh, when Jesus is the center, you get a weird team, because if you're Christ-oriented and not cause-oriented, you get community and not affinity.

Affinity vs. Community

If you're cause-oriented, you get affinity. All the people who agree with you come together. If you're Christ-oriented, people who disagree on a whole lot of things, they come together. That's actual community. What passes for community in our day is pretty much affinity. Everybody like me hangs out and does what I like. Community is people totally unlike me, who don't have much in common with me, come together with me, because we're Christ-centered. It's all about Jesus, and as we're all walking closer to Jesus as followers of Jesus, we happen to get closer together and become a team. That's what's cool about Christianity. You guys know this, in your community groups, your social networks, you're like, "Man, my Christian friends, I would never pick these people. I don't have anything in common with them—bipedal, upright—other than those two factors, we got nothing in common. But you know what? They love Jesus, I love Jesus, I love them, and together we make each other more sanctified, and together when we serve Jesus, it goes better, so praise God for a weird, diverse, collective team of different kind of people." So on our team, there are artists, there are accountants, people who are good with pictures, people who are good with numbers, all important, very vital. Weird teams are the best teams. You see that with Jesus. It's kind of a weird team. He's not picking the guys you'd expect, he's picking a bunch of no-names and nobodies.

To be continued.

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Pray Humbly Then Proceed Boldly


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

This is a series on 11 Leadership Lessons from 12 Disciples, based on the recent sermon Jesus Calls the Twelve, on Luke 6:12-16.

Lesson #1: Pray humbly then proceed boldly

Before choosing the twelve, what does Jesus do? Luke 6 tells us, he spent a whole night in prayer (Luke 6:12). Silence and solitude: today this would be shut off the phone, shut down the computer, stop Twittering, Facebooking, blogging. Shut it all down. Don't ask everybody, "What do you think I should do?" Don't post it on your wall, "Everybody, give me your advice."

Just shut it all down, go get with God, silence and solitude. Bring a pen, paper, a Bible, get some time with God, and talk to him. "All right, Lord, I've got an important decision to make. I'm here humbly requesting you help me. Speak to me through Scriptures, the Holy Spirit, conscience. Help me know what to do." This is exceedingly important, because we live in a world where hurry, worry, and busy dominate. No time for solitude, no time for silence. And so rather than going to God, we sometimes even go to technology to ask everybody else, "What should I do? Give me advice. Give me feedback." And that's not always evil or bad, but Jesus' example is: start with prayer. Life, ministry, and major decisions have to be bathed and birthed in prayer. That's the way it works.

And it says previously in Luke that Jesus has done this before, so this is a fairly common occurrence for him. He's got to choose twelve apostles, that's a big deal, so he's going to spend a whole night in prayer, looking across all those who are following him, and coming to hear him preach and teach. "Father, what about this one? What about that guy? What about this person? What about that one? Judas, you sure? We need to talk about that guy, not so sure I want him on the team."

So when you declare, "I'm going to be a member of this church. I want to serve in this ministry, paid or unpaid. I want to marry this person. I want go want to this college. I want to get this degree. I want to do this career. I want to live in this house. I want to take on this responsibility. We're going to birth these children." Before you make those big decisions, "We're going to deploy these leaders," pray, because what happens is most people pray after they've made the decision. Like, "Oh no, Lord, help, fix it. Whoops." God is a gracious God, and he can and does often show up and help, but it's so much better to seek God before making the decision, and the resulting devastation.

Proceed boldly

And once you pray humbly, and you get time with God, okay, "God, this is who I am. This is what you want me to do. This is the decision I need to make," then you could proceed boldly. "No, this is what I need to do. The Bible says, I got time with the Lord, and then I double-checked with spiritual authority and godly people to make sure that I actually heard the Lord, not the voice in my head. And yeah, I have conviction here. I have a sense of calling, and I know what I'm supposed to do, so I'm going to do it."

Those who pray humbly can proceed boldly. Those who do not pray humbly have a hard time proceeding boldly. It gets hard. There's opposition, life, ministry gets difficult. And all of a sudden you're like, "Am I doing the right thing? Should I have even started this? Should I have volunteered for this ministry? Should I be pursuing this life course? I don't know, maybe I made a mistake." Crisis ensues.

Grace and I, before we launched Mars Hill, and before we even announced that we officially would, we felt called to it. God had called us both to it, but we took some time, a week in fasting and prayer just to double-check. "Okay Lord, double-checking, is this it? You want us to start Mars Hill or not? Yes, okay, cool. We're in this together, and we're going to do it." And there's been some hard seasons, tough seasons, but we know this is what God asked us to do. Also, I prayed a lot before I married Grace, and God convicted me, revealed to me, "Yeah, marry that girl." Okay. Every marriage hits hard spots, every life hits hard spots, every career hits hard spots, every ministry, paid or unpaid, hits hard spots, and when you've prayed humbly, you can proceed boldly saying, "I'm going to hang in there, I'm going to keep going because I know this is what I'm supposed to do, and I trust God to get me through it."

To be continued.

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Pay for Big-Name, Proven Free Agents As Needed: Leadership Lessons from Baseball


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

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Lesson 8: Pay for Big-Name, Proven Free Agents As Needed

When all else is said and done, even the best teams have a few holes. To fill them, they have to go outside their current roster and Minor League system to hire a few big-name, proven free agents who are winners. The same is true for any organization and church. Money must be reserved to make a few key hires of this sort. In baseball, it encourages the players that the GM is serious about doing well, and it energizes the fans, who believe great things can happen. In a church, this kind of free agent pickup makes the team better and shows the staff and members that the GM is not settling but rather striving to be as effective as possible.

Lesson 9: Play Ball

The team has to play. They have to take the field, put their agendas and egos aside, show up early, stay late, practice constantly, hustle, work hard, and get the job done. If not, then the organization has to evaluate lessons 1–8 and make changes.

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Keep Some Griffey-Like Player-Coaches: Leadership Lessons from Baseball


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

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Lesson 7: Keep Some Griffey-Like Player-Coaches

Some older veterans can still play a bit but their real value is that they are also coaches. These players are highly respected by younger players, help set the clubhouse chemistry (also called organizational culture), and are revered by the other players. No team can be made up of solely this kind of players, but every team needs a few in strategic positions. These player-coaches love to develop talent and encourage and train young leaders, and thus are an invaluable asset to the organization. Still, any older player who cannot play well, does not coach well, and is not a supportive ally in building a good clubhouse should not be getting paid by the team.

To be continued.

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Always Let Young Leaders Get a Shot to Make the Team


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

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Lesson 6: Always Let Young Leaders Get a Shot to Make the Team

If you don’t do lessons 1–5, you cannot hope to see young leaders make the team. Many churches and organizations wonder why they cannot attract young leaders like others do. The answer is simple: it’s a cultural problem, and the GM has done a terrible job. In a church, this means it must be possible for someone to walk in as a non-Christian and some day become a senior-level leader if they do well in the Minor Leagues and they earn a position on the team. One of my great joys at Mars Hill is that a large percentage of our staff elders and deacons were saved at Mars Hill, including Jamie Munson, who is our Lead Pastor.

To be continued.

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Cut Underperforming, Overpaid Veterans: Leadership Lessons from Baseball


Mark Driscoll

Preaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church

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Lesson 5: Cut Underperforming, Overpaid Veterans

Every team has older veterans whom the fans love but who can no longer catch or hit a ball. The General Manager has a tough call to make. Do they cut them and let new talent take the field, even though they will lose money and their fans will be unhappy, or do they let them take the field, thereby taking away an opportunity from another player and causing the team to lose?

If there were a solely Christian MLB team run by a church, it would have highly paid, broken old veterans and lose every game; but, it would have a small and devoted fan base, along with a well developed theology of suffering to make it all seem spiritual. Teams, organizations, and churches have to cut the underperforming, overpaid veterans who are hurting the team. Even if they remain leaders, they have to be given another position without a salary and go find another job to pay the bills. The Mariners fielded this team a few years back and although the fans loved the broken-down, overpaid old lineup, the team could not have won a wiffle ball tournament at a retirement home. The old GM lost his job and the new GM fired every one of them and started over.

To be continued.

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